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IPS 4.0.13 Guests getting Permissions They Shouldn't Have

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Ok me and another member here have had this same issue for a while now.  The other members has a test board, mine is live.   Every once in a while, guest posting permissions will all turn on out of the blue.  Before today's, the last time was with the recent update, but it may have been coincidence.  Ever since 4.0 this has been happening even after the group bug fix.  

Tier 2 support says there is nothing wrong with my groups.   But I did have to recreate another group that lost the ability to edit the first post in their own topics.  This group had extended permissions even, so this shouldn't have happened.

What concerns me most is that perhaps other permissions are going wonky also and I am not aware of it.  Very scary....

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