ABR Studios Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 this is starting to get a little ridiculous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZakRhyno Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 If you don't get an answer here. Open a ticket and ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipy7 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I'm under the impression with every release you need to revert and re-edit the HTML templates as there is no way of seeing a diff or knowing what templates were changed in a release. unless you're using designer mod and a Git/SVN repo or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Christian Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I'm under the impression with every release you need to revert and re-edit the HTML templates as there is no way of seeing a diff or knowing what templates were changed in a release. unless you're using designer mod and a Git/SVN repo or something?Nope, there's currently an issue which prevents us from using version control if enabling/disabling designers mode (which is obviously required to perform a core update). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodle Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 They should provide a report almost ever other forum software maker does. After each release there should be a change log so that designers can know what to update/change. I find it strange that no official staff member has at least made a comment about it. At least an acknowledgement or something. Hope you guys get some sort or response soon @ehren. @Tom Christian and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry - AKA Dumbledore Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I know this is not going to be received well with the power designers, but to the journeyman designers there is one way to look fordifferences. Use Winmerge or the ios equivalent, and copy the template code to one side and revert the template to base code.Then add that code to the other site and compare. You can then move your edits to the new code , paste it back to the board and same. Yes for @ehren., @Tom Christian and the other power designers this is not a viable fix, but for basic work this is a good alternate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOFman Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I have several custom themes on my site and they are not getting messed up with the upgrades. The new themes are not reliant on images like the old themes (3.X) I don't think themes will ever be as intricate as they were because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izaya Orihara Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I have several custom themes on my site and they are not getting messed up with the upgrades. The new themes are not reliant on images like the old themes (3.X) I don't think themes will ever be as intricate as they were because of this.When you say not as intricate, what do you mean exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry - AKA Dumbledore Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 When you say not as intricate, what do you mean exactly?complicated or detailed The power designers code themes and make extensive changes that require the diff reports to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izaya Orihara Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 complicated or detailed I hope that isn't true :/ I figured that is true but i'd hate to see rather simple themes and nothing unique. That's a problem I had with a certain software that starts with X lol the themes are so simple and literally the default theme with a color change and a google imaged background/icons and a Premium($30 or more) price tag and little innovation. So I hope this isn't true for IPB4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry - AKA Dumbledore Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I hope that isn't true :/ I figured that is true but i'd hate to see rather simple themes and nothing unique. That's a problem I had with a certain software that starts with X lol the themes are so simple and literally the default theme with a color change and a google imaged background/icons and a Premium($30 or more) price tag and little innovation. So I hope this isn't true for IPB4 The major designers I hope will continue with their brand of themes. I still make some of my old theme based themes and some customs, that require template changes, but I can make my changes fairly fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOFman Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Yep, all the fancy details and heavy graphic themes will not work with the current software. It is going to be a challenge to make the themes as pleasing to the eye as they were with 3.X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Christian Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I have several custom themes on my site and they are not getting messed up with the upgrades. The new themes are not reliant on images like the old themes (3.X) I don't think themes will ever be as intricate as they were because of this.What do you mean? Of course that's still possible. It's just HTML & CSS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOFman Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 What do you mean? Of course that's still possible. It's just HTML & CSS. No, they were not HTML and CSS, they were (are) made up of LOTS of images. Example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABR Studios Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 seems odd this thread could go 3 weeks and into a few pages with no response from staff... i mean ANY response.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flitterkill Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 This is all still possible? Why wouldn't it be? No, they were not HTML and CSS, they were (are) made up of LOTS of images. Example And? Nothing has changed. If a theme designer wants to use images they still can. Nothing in 4.0 prevents the use of images for any of that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehren. Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 @Rikki has contacted a couple of us via PM regarding difference reports, so that seems to be a positive sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izaya Orihara Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 @Rikki has contacted a couple of us via PM regarding difference reports, so that seems to be a positive sign. Hope this helps you guys so we can see your products soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry - AKA Dumbledore Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 ??????????????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOFman Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I have not seen anything even close to the detailed theme I used as an example, even from the designer that did that one. I even asked Sherri if she thought it would be more of a challenge with 4.0. She said yes. If you want to see the difference, look at Sherri's Pro Red for 3.4 and then her Pro Red for 4.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Christian Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I have not seen anything even close to the detailed theme I used as an example, even from the designer that did that one. I even asked Sherri if she thought it would be more of a challenge with 4.0. She said yes. If you want to see the difference, look at Sherri's Pro Red for 3.4 and then her Pro Red for 4.0Perhaps because hardly any themes are available yet? Give it time :).There is nothing on that screenshot at all that couldn't be achieved with ease in IPS4. It's basic CSS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehren. Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 I have not seen anything even close to the detailed theme I used as an example, even from the designer that did that one. I even asked Sherri if she thought it would be more of a challenge with 4.0. She said yes. If you want to see the difference, look at Sherri's Pro Red for 3.4 and then her Pro Red for 4.0Many of the "pro" designers have been unable to release themes due to the bugs with the theme system - detailed themes will come soon once the bugs have been fixed. Any 3.x theme can easily be ported to 4.x, regardless of the images or complexity.. Themes still use HTML/css, there's no limitation on what can or can't be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOFman Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I hope you guys are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorSEdge Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I hope you guys are right. I mean, there are going to be variable differences in the way the themes are coded, but, in reality, IP4 will allow for much more than IP3 did. I have already seen some awesome IP4 custom theme jobs done that I don't think I had ever seen on IP3. However, (although there are many good theme designers out there), I have every bit of confidence @ehren.'s themes will still be top notch all the way around. We are like vultures over at ipsfocus.com waiting for the release of the updated themes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWadmin Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Any update? it seems that 4.0.5 won't be fixing this issue, what a shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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