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What superj707 recommended would be cool, I really like that idea. But it's not a members list. Technically, it would still work off of the search feature. We'd just style it differently.

 

​well the some of it could be search, but I think it would be a member list , erm member grid that would be sortable in convenient ways but also provide healthy competition.  Think, leader board and recognition for strong contributors.

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I would agree here having more and expand on how to make it better is something I would like to see. Totally just getting rid of it and not really thinking it through may be a problem. May user whom have voice there thoughts here so far have more in favor of getting rid of it. But, why? Just to be clicking on people to view content are randomly trying to find someone? No, I think a better way to look at it, is to see how one can improve it in way so that it not just the old way just viewing user and expand it to help others find someone. Another way one can think of is I'm looking for some user and I have an idea on how to spell there name. A search will only get me close to find the user than listing it. In a list I know what I'm looking for when I see it not just how it spell so that another thought.​

​hey, you quoted me but I don't remember saying any of that.

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If there is no members list it is surely because IPS don't think that it is not enough useful for a huge & medium community

Therefore the solution may be to not see the "members list" as "something we need to have" or something that "is completly useless", but rather as an new application(for 4.1 for instance) completly redesigned that bring a lot of new fonctionnality and very different of all other community software to make it as something unique from IPS which doesn't exist or looks like others community software. 

Otherwise a member list is requiered just because people need to know they exist on the community and that they are not just a number in the global counter.

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What we need is for people to attach to "groups" as members, and I am not talking about Member Groups as such.

Currently I have implemented this as a member group, but it is quite a pain, because everyone has to be added manually (secondary group).

These people actually started their group in PM first, but when it got to 200 or so, it was just a little bit too big a group for extended PM conversations.
Since not every member is necessarily interested in the stuff they discuss and share, it would be nice to have some kind of mechanism whereby people indicate, and this in a searchable, groupable, viewable fashion, in their profile or so, that they belong to such a group, and hence a member list of sorts, which allows easy addition to such a group, form the front end rather than the back end.

Effectively, we have 6 of these groups already on our board.

So, if this could be combined with a great new implementation of the indeed somewhat awkward 3.4.x member list, this would be absolutely marvellous. After all, on, e.g., LinkedIn there are such discussion groups as well, and both groups and members can be added quite easily, from the front end. And people can display their "badge"  for such groups as well. Do note that these discussion groups are effectively forums!

I think this would make for an excellent add-on for members, member groups, and the member list, be it in a different format. And it should be fairly easy to implement (I hope ;)).

In short, groups and subgroups, whereby someone could be a member of many groups, which we already have, all accessible from the front end, and with indications/indicators that they belong to these groups.

If any add-on maker here is interested in creating such a thing, I will gladly work out a detailed design for what could be a quite nice add-on for the suite, and which I think would take it another level up - you're effectively creating a new Blue Ocean when you do.

Kind regards, Wim

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I have mixed feelings about this

One thing I REALLY want even if it is going to require custom coding or using Pages is to be able to sort members and show them on a individual page.

For example I may want a page that shows all members who have selected their custom field city to be New York or Paris

This is important to our community as it helps to browse blogs of the local members only and not have to do a search. That means that I will probably want to have a drop down in the navigation and links to pages that will dynamically pull up a search. not sure if it is better to do it via a url search parameters or via a custom page.

What do you think?

EDIT: basically we have members who are all in different cities and are only interested in members and stuff going on in their city and not on the other side of the world. When they register they have to select custom fields for city and country. Can pages produce listing of all members sorted y city if needed? (I really should look into pages, I bought it but never learned to use it)

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Again, that’s already possible. The member list is part of the search and custom profile fields as part of this search do already show up there if you have set any. 

​Yes it is possible but this member list integrated in the search system is very ugly and not very efficient.

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For example I may want a page that shows all members who have selected their custom field city to be New York or Paris

This is important to our community as it helps to browse blogs of the local members only and not have to do a search. That means that I will probably want to have a drop down in the navigation and links to pages that will dynamically pull up a search. not sure if it is better to do it via a url search parameters or via a custom page.

What do you think?

This is practical and I know that members do use the members table to find other members in their area to plan events with, etc.​

Again, that’s already possible. The member list is part of the search and custom profile fields as part of this search do already show up there if you have set any. 

I tried to check out the new system, but it's been down for two days.​

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@opentype making a search is something different from grouping though.

I don’t see how. Listing the result of such “groups” or filtering down members in a search by custom fields can lead exactly to the same results. 

 

But anyway: I am getting a little tired of how this discussion is going. Maybe people first need to start using 4.0 on a daily basis and THEN suggest how the member search can be improved. It seems there are a lot of complains and suggestion thrown around without even knowing what the actual status quo of the current member list functionality is. 

 

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​that's still not a member list though. A memberlist is what we presently have now on 3.X

Their way of doing it is akin to what we have now on 3.X(The moderating team, top posters, etc etc). So no they don't actually have an Member list. They just have a "notable' member list :)

As Charles said, I am not going to go through a memberlist to get to know people. You get to know people through the forum themselves and content they post.

A forum is not a dating site or social networking where you'd need to find someone based on their age, gender, sexual preference, etc etc to find common interest lol :P

​I beg to differ-

Forum software can be all of the above this is what we call "Finding your niche"

Not all forums are focused on gaming, technology, sales or sports just to mention a small few. There are many uses for forum software including social networking. The list of uses are staggering.

As a tid bit for FYI... Did you know that the original name for IP 3.4.X was to be IPS Community Social Suite?

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@opentype I appreciate your input. I think the issue is that too many are going tit for tat over specifics. I think the general premise is that the lack of a high quality member list presents a narrow view of forum function and purpose. I know a member list won't be for everyone but it's certainly not a niche either. Forums are about more than informational topics these days, they are about people and community.  Let me just say that again. "People and Community"

How can we even pretend to care about people and community without a proper member list? (member grid)

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Maybe people first need to start using 4.0 on a daily basis and THEN suggest how the member search can be improved. It seems there are a lot of complains and suggestion thrown around without even knowing what the actual status quo of the current member list functionality is. 

 

 

That's when the problems will appear, like that horrible thing of receive hundred notifications/emails per day everytine a follower breath in the suite. You know, there will be a 4.1, so let's wait.

 

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Just wondering here.. if the member list is so important and most used thing for some users then how come they didn't realize it's gone until now... 

I'm glad it's gone. Rarely used it and can't find it useful to have it on my board.

Again, (and I will repeat this a million times if people can't read) it's not that the OLD member list was so great, it's that a NEW member list which has evolved to be useful was the expectation. With the site improving why is everyone acting like a member list can't be anything other than what it was in 1997?

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​Whatever the case, it is about building a community .... ;)

Warm regards, Wim

​I agree...

             On Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:06:48, Charles said:

​I guess that begs the question: what is the root purpose of a community software like ours?

Is it finding people or finding content?

​I guess this would depend on the direction and "Niche" of any particular forum.

Some go for the technical arena where some are into sports others in animation while others are looking for the meaning to life. This is the meaning to my answer to "Is it finding people or finding content?" Either way it comes to people and their niche... Without the people as the primary part of the equation there would be no content to consider. To build a community with content is a good thing.  I agree.... Building a community with content and interaction is a Great thing. Personally It don't matter to me about a list of made up photo's and meaningless stats. But if this is how some people get their members to keep coming back and new members joining then I say "Go for it!"

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I don't understand the desire for a memberlist. You can go to Advanced Search and search for members using keywords from any profile field, including custom profile fields. :)

​Like someone said...It went from having a memberlist on IPB4 to expanding and evolving the memberlist to be something way more lmao. I honestly have no idea what is going on now :D

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