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Aussie Cable Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 I don't know, but you guys (official IPS employees) keep on stating that IPS 4.0 is the fastest version of your software yet, I am not convinced. This is what it took to load the site today (8.8 seconds): This is how long it took to login (17.5 seconds): Now I am in Australia, and it never takes this long to load the site, it is usually only around 2 seconds to load, and about 3 to login. My own beta site is slower than my 3.4.x version. I am yet to be convinced. Seems I am not the only one seeing this: and
Kirill N Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 I'm sure this this is temporary. There's no way this software is really this slow.
Aussie Cable Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 and 122 seconds to submit a post? Really......... Wow you guys have lots of work to do, that is very clear to me.
xtech Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 I have checked the html code production and it seems that is quite larger than 3.4.x (which by itself is still quite large)So far i am not impressed with 4.0 but maybe it's too soon to say.
vitoreis Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 To me, in Europe, it's impressive. Very, very quick timeload!
opentype Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 It’s Beta software running on a just converted site with tons of re-building stuff still happening in the background. It’s pointless to make statements about the performance of the 4.0 software itself by just looking at how long it takes to load this page today. Give it some time.
joelle Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 @Aussie Cable It is definitely too early to measure page speed since there are still lots of bugs to fix but please do your speed tests again when IPS 4 is released.
bfarber Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 We had a preview site up for months running on Zend Server (so we could monitor performance), allowing us to find performance issues and tweak the software. That said, nothing replaces running the software on a busy production site where you get thousands of visitors simultaneously, so we have upgraded our company forums to help shake out further bugs and performance issues. Just yesterday we resolved an issue for instance where language string queries were stacking up in MySQL, and this resulted in a huge performance boost. We have found missing indexes on various database tables which were causing massively slow queries to stack up, and we've since resolved many of those. We will continue performance monitoring and testing and the software will continue to get speedier. The underlying code architecture is far more modern and better performing than previous versions, and most of the slowness noticed so far is simply due to upgrade oddities (which are bugs that we will or have addressed) or usage of areas that just haven't had much real world, large busy site testing yet.
The Jimmo Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 The preview site that was running for quite some time, was really fast even with all the performance tracking/reporting that IPS deployed on it. Just need to give this instance some time, read those posts carefully about what is happening and you'll understand the current situation better
Andy Millne Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 It is secondary to the underlying speed of course but there are also additional caching features that are completely disabled here right now, guest output caching for instance. Enabling them would mask underlying issues though and we need to optimize each application layer independently.
Management Charles Posted November 14, 2014 Management Posted November 14, 2014 Check back in a week and I am sure it will be faster
Kirill N Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Everything is fast for me now except New Content which takes up to 10 seconds to load.
Kirill N Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Ok not so fast, took me about 15 seconds to submit a bug
bigPaws Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Perhaps IPS 4 requires a bigger/faster server than v3 - and IPS are just sorting out now? Hence the massive lags when posting, searching, etc.
CheersnGears Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Is there still indexing and rebuilding going on in the background? I noticed it was slower also, but I just thought it was those things.
RevengeFNF Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Perhaps IPS 4 requires a bigger/faster server than v3 - and IPS are just sorting out now? Hence the massive lags when posting, searching, etc.I hope not, i was not expecting to move to a expensive VPS.
Joriz Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Great to hear that the community forum is the biggest test for IPS4. Even with cache disabled everything seems to work fine and fast from the Netherlands.So I'm really looking forward to experience the new software at full speed with more optimizations and caching enabled.
Management Charles Posted November 14, 2014 Management Posted November 14, 2014 Perhaps IPS 4 requires a bigger/faster server than v3 - and IPS are just sorting out now? Hence the massive lags when posting, searching, etc.As we have said several times we are still doing optimizations on this site.
Soniceffect Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 As we have said several times we are still doing optimizations on this site. So why is it so slow? Runs and hides
edenx Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 HeyI am a former IPB user. I just want to say Discourse feels a lot faster. Maybe due to it being Ruby I dont know. Cheers.
Soniceffect Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Lets see how quick it is to ban, Marc_S.Can't do that. I'd be lost LOL
Soniceffect Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 HeyI am a former IPB user. I just want to say Discourse feels a lot faster. Maybe due to it being Ruby I dont know. Cheers.Must admit I completely agree. However to be fair I once wrote a form with the words "Hello World" on it and that to ran 1000% quicker than IPS. In fact I would go as far as to say it was instant, and I was only an amateur in those days.
Soniceffect Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 @Charles - Did you just tell em to peddle faster? Seems to have sped up a fair bit in the past few mins whatever you guys have done
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