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Do not like the new Code and Quote in 3.4


Kandice

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As far as copying and pasting goes it all depends what you are copying and pasting from...

If I copy and paste stuff from notepad it has extra line breaks where they shouldn't be... and this goes for all editors and not just ours.

However, I can copy and paste from MS Word just fine without the extra line breaks. Same with spaces before colons.

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As far as copying and pasting goes it all depends what you are copying and pasting from...

If I copy and paste stuff from notepad it has extra line breaks where they shouldn't be... and this goes for all editors and not just ours.

However, I can copy and paste from MS Word just fine without the extra line breaks. Same with spaces before colons.

Not true, IPBoard 3.3 and vBulletin able to Parsed and align the Text correctly regardless where the Texts is being copy in this instance Notepad.

3.4.1, you have to use the light switch to be in source mode for it to look correctly when the Text is being paste.

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Why is that?


Because:
  • it behaves strangely (adds an extra line break, when you remove this the quote breaks, etc)
  • it does not display the needed information (who you are quoting)
  • quoting multiple texts is confusing.
  • for some reason you need to find a light switch, click it, then find out why all buttons in the editor stop working and then go learn complex code to deal with it all.
Try testing this on a forum that mainly has elders as a member base. Its easy to predict that it will not fare well.
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On my site quite a few members break one post up into 4 or 5 seperate quotes to reply to each part individually, I imagine this will be a pain with the new quote system and one of the reasons I have yet to upgrade to 3.4

It is not at all. Have you tried it on this site? You just hit enter a couple times in the quote and it will break it up for you.

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It is not at all. Have you tried it on this site? You just hit enter a couple times in the quote and it will break it up for you.

I did not know about that either, but it is not really overly helpful if people don't know that is a function. Overall the new quote is getting big thumbs downs from my users.

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I typed out both of your examples:

Screenshot_1_24_13_5_25_PM.png

Yes, on save, they do turn into the other format you mentioned but that is what is supposed to happen as that is how it needs to be formatted on the back end.

It worked fine as you can see. If you're having trouble please submit a ticket or a bug report but I didn't have any issues with your examples :smile:

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ok thats fine working fine here but I have 2 issues on my forum at least is with code bbcode .. you highlight the link and click the code button < > it does not put the code bbcode at the front and end of link. its very confusing for members ? with the image %7Boption%7D bbcode once posted the image turns into a clickable image that take you to the image file host this never used to happen

I will now put a new ticket in and quote you ..

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Well said.
We are not satisfied with quote or code in 3.4 because the normal user that actually uses the RTE has to fight it every step, swapping back and forth just to do basic sane formatting.
You have effectively forced the RTE user to use the STD 0.o.
::God I hate these live tags, please, please do not do this with , I would have to 'forget' the RTE exists::

Need to edit 500 plus records manually in IPC because of this swapping issue... Again....

This editor is beating me up!

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Need to edit 500 plus records manually in IPC because of this swapping issue... Again....

This editor is beating me up!

Indeed, why do you have to edit 500 records? Simply upgrading shouldn't actually modify or change any of the data in the database. I know the parsing engine can affect how things are parsed on display as well, but editing the records wouldn't really change that I'd think.

I'd recommend submitting a ticket so we can get to the bottom of whatever issue you are facing. You should never have to edit every record in your database following an upgrade.

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Indeed, why do you have to edit 500 records? Simply upgrading shouldn't actually modify or change any of the data in the database. I know the parsing engine can affect how things are parsed on display as well, but editing the records wouldn't really change that I'd think.

I'd recommend submitting a ticket so we can get to the bottom of whatever issue you are facing. You should never have to edit every record in your database following an upgrade.

Because you have changed how HTML mode works in the CKE field repeatedly.

There was a version where bbcode would work in HTML mode. There was also a version that supported HTML mode without auto linebreaks.

Keep changing the way HTML mode works in the CKE and you will continue to piss a lot of people off.

Also, he did, for whatever good that did..... now looking at other options field(and maybe cms)-wise because the editor field is clearly unstable to keep content in with the constant changes.

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Because you have changed how HTML mode works in the CKE field repeatedly.

There was a version where bbcode would work in HTML mode. There was also a version that supported HTML mode without auto linebreaks.

Keep changing the way HTML mode works in the CKE and you will continue to piss a lot of people off.

Also, he did, for whatever good that did..... now looking at other options field(and maybe cms)-wise because the editor field is clearly unstable to keep content in with the constant changes.

Setting aside your overly hostile tone for a moment - all of those things might affect how the data is SAVED, but changing how HTML is handled in CKEditor should not affect how it DISPLAYS.

What I am saying is, if you submitted content in 3.3, you upgrade to 3.4.2 and that content is suddenly not displaying correctly, I would urge a client to submit a ticket so we can find out why and fix the problem. That seems a much better solution, both short term and long term, than editing hundreds of saved entries after an upgrade because they display differently than prior to the upgrade.

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