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All I can say is I am trying hard to get everything done. I reallllly would like to get this and my betting app both done by the end of the month, and this one comes before that one does, so obviously I am trying my best to be done with all tournaments apps (custom and public) as soon as possible. I was hoping to have the betting one done before March because of the ncaa tournament. Too abd I didn't do it before the NFL playoffs.

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okay @Midnight Modding - can we have cards on the table time please?

Going back through this thread, we've been waiting on a V4 version for over 2 years, with the same reasons that one is delayed being "just finishing custom work", "getting to grips with the software" and "it will be next month hopefully"

So if you aren't / can't update this, please say so.   People wont' think any less of you, but frustration will continue and get worse if we keep hearing "it's nearly ready" and then it gets delayed again etc...

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I am going to get it updated. I've put in too much time learning the new framework to just stop working on it and not update it. I'm to the point now where it's going to move fast, assuming no big health issue or something like that.

I originally had a lot of problems learning the new framework, but now it's to the point where if I run into problems it will be about a specific situation, quick to figure out.

It's probably going to be at the very end of the month that it would be released.

This is definitely not a situation where I am making excuses and going to never get it done. Before I ever started making apps, I'd ask when a particular one would be updated to 3.x and people would make excuses and NEVER did update it. That is not the situation here. I badly wanted the author of Casino (Mike) to update that one for 3.x and it never came about. :(

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It's ok. I understand the frustration as long as this has been. But at this point, all I can do is get it done as soon as possible, while, like you said, being sure to not rush it into a buggy release. I've spent a lot of time trying o understand the 4.x framework, that way it will go fast now as I actually code. I'm trying as hard as I can to get it done this month. Apps shouldn't take over a week or two each once I am confident in understanding the code structure, which I a close to at this point.

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Still working on this and making progress. Hopefully people don't give up, because I'm still trying to get everything done. I'm not being lazy. I just had to learn a lot about the 4.x framework and battling the same health issues over and over. But I'll get it done.

Also, I now I keep saying this, but very soon I'll have a much better idea of exactly when I can get it done.

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I'll be honest I gave up on this a while ago bud as it was promised over and over and never happened. I myself kept promising it to my community and then letting them down so in the end we did something different. 

If you do get it done then great and we'll be happy to buy it again, but I hope there is a introductory price to account for the long wait.

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On 25/02/2017 at 6:25 AM, Midnight Modding said:

Still working on this and making progress. Hopefully people don't give up, because I'm still trying to get everything done. I'm not being lazy. I just had to learn a lot about the 4.x framework and battling the same health issues over and over. But I'll get it done.

Also, I now I keep saying this, but very soon I'll have a much better idea of exactly when I can get it done.

Whilst I'm as frustrated as the next person with the delays, I'm keeping the faith bud.   It worked very well last time round and is a cracking feature for any sports / gaming / competitive community

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I'm hoping to release this on April 1st where people will have to guess if it's an April Fools joke or not. That gives me about 4 weeks, which I think should be enough time.

Also possibly I could let a couple people form in here test it on my test site if they want to, but I have already been working on a custom version as well, so most likely I'll have bugs ironed out in a lot of similar areas to that one. Plus most code for the actual functionality, such as moving teams around in brackets, will be mostly unchanged, anyway.

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Sadly, it's still not ready. I'm the only one who works on the app and I've been sick, so there's not much I could have done to get it finished by then.

I have everything sorted out as far as what I can put in and what I can't from a custom version of the app, so at least there's no hurdles outside of health-related.

I think I will have to mostly just have the first 4.x version be basically the same as the 3.x one was, though, where I won't slow it up even more, and then as soon as I release it, I can start adding in new features and probably release that newer version a couple months later.

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Wishing I kept all my v3.x files now, this has delayed our site enough carrying out what it wanted to do.  Will have to seek another option now and possibly a move away from IPB to achieve our goals, which I and my admins are really not pleased about

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6 hours ago, KPDub said:

Wishing I kept all my v3.x files now, this has delayed our site enough carrying out what it wanted to do.  Will have to seek another option now and possibly a move away from IPB to achieve our goals, which I and my admins are really not pleased about

Have you already upgraded the forums themselves? Or even if you did, you could temporarily use a 3.x version, although I know it would not be ideal. If you could think of a solution for a month, then you wouldn't have to seek alternatives.

I understand the frustration, but reasons for delays now are not the same types of reasons that had it delayed for years in the beginning. Back then I kept delaying even starting on 4.x apps. Right now, I have made progress, but simply ran into slowdowns due to health, mostly, and of course also learning the 4.x structure. I'm back to feeling fine today, so I'm hoping it won't be much longer to get it done.

11 hours ago, mrbowers said:

Being able to have access to it again is the big thing eta ?

It will be some time in April.

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11 hours ago, Midnight Modding said:

Have you already upgraded the forums themselves? Or even if you did, you could temporarily use a 3.x version, although I know it would not be ideal. If you could think of a solution for a month, then you wouldn't have to seek alternatives.

Unistalled everything a while ago as site put on hiatus for a few months.   Can't access any old files anyway

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All I can really say at this point is some time in May. I have figured out "almost" everything I need and started getting a lot more done. Like I said before, it's hard to pinpoint dates, though, which is why IPS stopped giving them for their products. One time when they did mention a potential date, it ended up being a long time later when it came out. I can just say I am close now.

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Sorry but this is getting on my nerves because I find this whole thing insulting.. We paid for an app that we can't use anymore. You can't keep people waiting for so long and always serving the same lame excuses. I bet when It will be released, the price will grow. In my opinion, it should be free due to the prejuidice, that's if there are still people interested or alive when it will be released (maybe April 2030).

Anyways, just to let you know guys that there is another application in the marketplace that does about the same thing, though its meant for football; let's try it (Yes, while this app is being "updated" at "turtle pace" one piece of code every month, someone had the time to create a new one; and others died waiting)

You may also want to try "challonge" (google it), it is not an application but it is a website that offers embeddedable brackets into any html page; it's free and customizable.

Have a nice day!

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Many people suddenly stop making new versions for their apps at all. You're not guaranteed them being updated. Anyone who already bought the old version has not paid any renewal fee on it in a long time. And, again, it can't take less time than it takes, and IPS has had delays. IPS had next to no documentation for the first year or two and I have had ehalth issues, which don't qualify as lame excuses. I'm trying to get it done as soon as I can.

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As long as people don't stop wanting it, I'll finish it. If nobody is going to want it after such a long wait, it wouldn't make sense to finish. So it's up to the potential customers. I'm sure at least a few people will still want it, though.

There's not much problem with figuring out how to code it now. It's just a lot to code and also now I'm sick, so that is slowing me up probably 2-3 days. I almost never get sick, but of course I do when trying to finish my apps... I haven't had the flu in probably almost 25 years. (I don't now, either, but just saying...)

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Hello @Midnight Modding,

I pray that you get well soon!

I have faith in you and your application. And I would love to buy it as well when it comes out. So I am waiting for the release. It would be nice if you could give another prospective date of release. And I hope that it will work with 4.1.x and soon on 4.2

4.2 is coming this summer and I would definitely upgrade.

So fingers crossed and waiting for your reply!

Cheers!

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