dvancouver Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Like most of the members here I have downloaded uncountable software. The thing I never see is release dates for products that a company is working on, it just happens that they are cool enough to let us know about the upcoming improvements. It helps keep our interest and gives us something to look forward to but the caution in all of it is don't rush the improvements. IPB 3 is already a complete forum, a very complete forum software. The need for the next gadget will not improve our forums but I sure don't hate them, I like new functionality just like the next customer. IPB 3.1 has some very nice improvements coming and is quickly evolving but at some point we have to be happy with the work in progress for the next version. That is just my $0.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Is there a slight chance that IPB 3.1.0 will be released in next 1,5 months? Simply yes or no :) If it's ready in the next 1.5 months, then yes ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Like most of the members here I have downloaded uncountable software. The thing I never see is release dates for products that a company is working on, it just happens that they are cool enough to let us know about the upcoming improvements. It helps keep our interest and gives us something to look forward to but the caution in all of it is don't rush the improvements. IPB 3 is already a complete forum, a very complete forum software. The need for the next gadget will not improve our forums but I sure don't hate them, I like new functionality just like the next customer. IPB 3.1 has some very nice improvements coming and is quickly evolving but at some point we have to be happy with the work in progress for the next version. That is just my $0.02 Very very well said. +1 from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abomination Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Historically, what has been the length of time this forum runs new software, before it is released? I've been assuming sometime in the next few months this forum would say 3.1._ on the bottom, and it would be at least a few weeks after that before it was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Historically, what has been the length of time this forum runs new software, before it is released? I've been assuming sometime in the next few months this forum would say 3.1._ on the bottom, and it would be at least a few weeks after that before it was released. That will be the process, yes. We're currently doing some Beta testing of IP.Board 3.1, but there are still bug fixes and such that need done with it first. When we have the features we want in it, and the bugs are all fixed, we'll try it out on this site. There will undoubtedly be a few additional things the community catches at that point that we'll need to address, but assuming nothing major crops up we should be able to officially release 3.1.0 shortly after that. It's really hard to give any estimates about how long this process will take from now until folks can download 3.1, because we simply don't know what's going to be found that we'll need to address between now and then, and how long fixing it will take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 We're currently doing some Beta testing of IP.Board 3.1, but there are still bug fixes and such that need done with it first. Beta, or Alpha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Beta, or Alpha? Does it matter? It's people outside of IPS doing the testing, so personally I'd consider that beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Does it matter? It's people outside of IPS doing the testing, so personally I'd consider that beta. The below is why I ask, because I know that we sometimes don't get to toy with Alphas, but thought that we'd be able to play with the Betas before a final release. We're at the stage now where development is going to be wrapping up very soon. We'll then have to go through QA and betas. How long that takes can vary dramatically from our expectations - any guesses we make about the release date is going to be no more than a guess because of this. And we don't want to make promises we're unable to keep. I think to compare us to Blizzard is unfair. 3.1 is completely on schedule - and we're posting blog entries to let you know what's going on every step of the way. We will also of course have public betas, like we always do. That will be the process, yes. We're currently doing some Beta testing of IP.Board 3.1, but there are still bug fixes and such that need done with it first. When we have the features we want in it, and the bugs are all fixed, we'll try it out on this site. There will undoubtedly be a few additional things the community catches at that point that we'll need to address, but assuming nothing major crops up we should be able to officially release 3.1.0 shortly after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IP.iBaLLiN Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 So, to be sure, IPB 3.1 development is complete and no new features are being added? Now just to polish it off with bug fixes and such? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 There are just different stages of beta testing, it's all semantics, though. I've heard of places that give their software out for testing and call that alpha testing. To me, anyone outside of your area testing something is beta testing. Right now we have some private beta testing going on with some non-IPS individuals, then at some point there will be public beta testing. It's the way it's been done for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razasharp Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Personally I don't see why it has to be one or the other - a release date or no release date. Reports on progress (not just feature additions) are always welcome, bit like this: We're at the stage now where development is going to be wrapping up very soon. We'll then have to go through QA and betas. How long that takes can vary dramatically from our expectations - any guesses we make about the release date is going to be no more than a guess because of this. And we don't want to make promises we're unable to keep. Please post more like that - it gives us an idea to make educated guesses at least. Ideally we'd have something that's more in between a release date and the above, but it's still MUCH better than nothing at all :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 There are just different stages of beta testing, it's all semantics, though. I've heard of places that give their software out for testing and call that alpha testing. To me, anyone outside of your area testing something is beta testing. Right now we have some private beta testing going on with some non-IPS individuals, then at some point there will be public beta testing. It's the way it's been done for a while now. It just gets confusing when one person says it meaning it one way then someone says it meaning it a different way. I wasn't trying to put you on the spot or anything. I thought perhaps you meant Alpha but accidentally said Beta. Also, if we +AC's weren't going to get to play with the Betas (or at least not the first of them), then that would have been nice to know. I'm sure you can understand the confusion from someone that's not in the know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbiss Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 It just gets confusing when one person says it meaning it one way then someone says it meaning it a different way. I wasn't trying to put you on the spot or anything. I thought perhaps you meant Alpha but accidentally said Beta. Also, if we [color="#FF0000"]+[/color]AC's weren't going to get to play with the Betas (or at least not the first of them), then that would have been nice to know. I'm sure you can understand the confusion from someone that's not in the know. Just wait until it shows up Wolfie and stop trying to find things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey-Rev Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 quit repeating what everybody else says in order to get an extra point. Someone said the official answer is when it's ready. you don't need to repeat it 4 times in the same topic. Howabout you stop going around bashing Wolfie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Just wait until it shows up Wolfie and stop trying to find things out. You obviously haven't read the entire thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I say alpha because there is still development going on and it's not public. Michael says beta because it's external - we're talking about the same thing though. Don't worry Wolfie, there will be a public beta like always :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxius Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 okay guys , that's not saying another thing :) and waiting and wishing devs good luck. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 In my mind, there is no difference between "alpha" and "beta". The only difference between the terms is what you put into it. ;) Similar to Michael's interpretation, I use alpha up until the point we invite people outside of IPS to look at the software, and then I call it beta. It's irrelevant though, as the terminology used won't change how long it takes to release one bit. We could call it "puppy dog version" and it's still going to take the same amount of time to finish until we are comfortable with the release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxius Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 okay anyway I got one more question not regarding the ip 310 release date. I came to like CleanCut skin, a lot, but it seems that updating and fixing of that skin ceased. I remember reporting numerous bugs as well as other member to the tracker - but there are no replies from staff, bugs are unfilled, unfixed. Why did you abandon it. I thought when you chose that skin to become a default skin you made a commitment to keep the skin up-to-date. and it does not look like its up to date... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 We could call it "puppy dog version" and it's still going to take the same amount of time to finish until we are comfortable with the release. Hmmmmm..... Wolfpup (or Wp for short, replacement for Alpha) Dawg (instead of Beta) and Alpha Dog (AD, replacement for R.C.'s) I rather like that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Hmmmmm..... Wolfpup (or Wp for short, replacement for Alpha) Dawg (instead of Beta) and Alpha Dog (AD, replacement for R.C.'s) I rather like that idea. I think you need a hobby. ;) :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I think you need a hobby. ;) :lol: I came up with those on the spot.. (Here Spot! Sit Spot, sit! Good boy!) Seriously, took me all of a couple of minutes, that includes typing, mouse clicks, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geek Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 You obviously haven't read the entire thread. I thought this was a topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I thought this was a topic? [img] [/img] The topic weened back on the first page. He hasn't read all the other posts that are being held together with a piece of string. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Don't bite Wolf! People are just trying to provoke you! Just let them get on with it! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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