Ditchmonkey Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 There have been a few discussions recently about the lack of image file size and dimension controls in the attachments part of IPB board. I suspect that part of IPB's reluctance to properly address this issue is that if too much image handling functionality is added to the board, the market for the gallery software is reduced. That's understandable, but the issue still remains that for many non-computer savvy users, an all-in-one post/image upload solution is needed. It's just too confusing for many to upload images to the gallery and copy/paste those images into threads. And why should users be forced to do this anyway - it's a pretty archaic process for such modern software. Solution - create integration that allows users to add photos to the gallery and insert them into posts from the post form in the forums - all in the same step (as if they were attachments). Everyones problems solved and you guys really will have a powerful forum/gallery solution at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Actually, the lack of image-specific functionality in the attachment manager is, in my mind at least, more so a limitation brought on by the fact that the attachment manager was not designed to handle JUST images. Thus, most of the options for attachments are generic and apply to all attachment types (zips, text files, etc.). I am not against adding a setting for "maximum image dimensions" for uploaded images, though I don't know how useful it is to the majority of users since you can already specify thumbnail dimensions for uploaded images anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditchmonkey Posted November 5, 2009 Author Share Posted November 5, 2009 Actually, the lack of image-specific functionality in the attachment manager is, in my mind at least, more so a limitation brought on by the fact that the attachment manager was not designed to handle JUST images. Thus, most of the options for attachments are generic and apply to all attachment types (zips, text files, etc.). I am not against adding a setting for "maximum image dimensions" for uploaded images, though I don't know how useful it is to the majority of users since you can already specify thumbnail dimensions for uploaded images anyways. Well Vbulletin does it fine. Big board owners need to carefully manage resources. That includes the file size and dimensions of uploaded image. And as discussed in other threads, people want the option of displaying attachments inline in the thread rather than thumbnailed (another vbulletin feature). To achieve this in a reasonable manner, there needs to be some restriction on dimensions. I have to say that this is just one of those issues you guys are just being hard-headed about. I can tell you what will happen though - more and more people will flood over here from VB, start using your product, and complain about the lack of basic functionality here. Eventually you will have to concede the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 No one is being hard-headed about it. :P This is not a suggestion that really comes up often to be honest. In fact, I've only seen it suggested within the last couple of weeks, primarily from vb converts. As we generally use suggestions made to gauge features for upcoming versions, we would consider this for 3.1 and beyond. That's really the only reason it hasn't been considered before. I even said I wasn't against it in my reply. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3DKiwi Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I've been asking for this for ages. I'm not a VB convert. I'm not sure why the people at IPS don't think this is a problem. Image file size and resolution restrictions are required for forum image attachments to stop the occasional idiot posting a humongous image. My admins and mods are regularly deleting oversize image attachments. I would prefer if this was addressed now rather than some of the frilly stuff coming in 3.1. Sure some of it will be very well received but I would like the basics addressed first. 3DKiwi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountZero Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'm going to toss my 2 cents in as well. I am a "recent vB convert" and the image handling in both the board and the gallery here is less robust than the old version of vB in my opinion. I have a lot of "Non technical" users on my site. On my old vB system, I allowed everyone a chunk of storage space for images and had the system set to allow uploads of a specific size. (As an example, 100k.) In the "photo albums" and the attachments in vB, if the actual image size was 250K, the system would re-size it down to under the 100K limit. It would not alter the actual image dimensions. This was easy for my users to handle. The system did it for them. Also, they could upload an image to an album, and easily drop it into a post. A lot of non technical folks don't understand file sizes. They want to take the photos out of their camera or scanner and upload them. The problem is they complain when they run out of room. I used the auto re-size of vB to minimize that headache. And it worked very well for me. I could maximize their usage of space, and for the most part, it was transparent to the users. They uploaded their images to the system regardless of how big it was, the system did its magic, and everyone got to enjoy the images. Win-win. In IPBoard and IPGallery, that is just not the case. The gallery feature is confusing for my less technical members. (Which is the majority of my user base. They are car people, not computer people.) The dimensional resizing in the Gallery is pointless in my opinion, and its just not intuitive for folks to add something to a gallery and then use that image in a post. Here are my suggestions. 1. Add the "My Gallery" option to the members drop down at the top of the page for everyone. If they do not have an album set up, take them right to the setup page with a big honking "CREATE NEW GALLERY" button so they can create one easily. Only having it there for users that have created galleries already is confusing. Some users see that option, and some don't. Not to mention getting them to the correct area to create their first gallery isn't as intuitive as it should be. My users like the forum system overall because its easier and more intuitive in a lot of ways than my old vB system. They do not like the Gallery at all. I keep hearing that its confusing, its not user friendly, and its hard to use. So poeple are not using it at all right now. Which is not good. (In a lot of respects the gallery is confusing for me as the admin as well. Coming from vB, a lot of the "features" seem to be the same as vB, but they do not work the same. And that is frustrating.) 2. Build in a proper image re-sizer into the software. Either in IPBoard or at the very least in the IPGallery. I was told recently in a support ticket that the re-size function only works on the image dimensions. I just don't understand that reasoning. The system has a setting to auto-scale images down do they don't break the system in the forums. So why do we need to re-size the dimensions when its uploaded, what is that actually doing for us? It seems like a redundant option to me. And its confusing to members and to folks new to IPB. It makes more sense to me to allows resizing of the actual image size so your system isn't clogged with massive files. Ideally we would have the option of resizing the image or the dimensions or both. I don't need print quality high resolution photos on my site. I need an Easy way for non technical folks to share images with everyone without killing the site with massive file sizes. I understand some sites want fantastic quality. So let them turn OFF the file size reduction if they don't want it. I'm sure there are a lot of sites that DO want the ability to re-size images. Especially everyone that you are getting as a new customer that is coming from vB. 3. Give us an easy way to allow folks to add gallery images to posts. I want my users to use the gallery, and I don't allow attachments directly in posts. Gallery images aren't affected when posts are pruned which is why I want everything in the gallery. So give me a button or an image browser that will open the users galleries and let them pick an image to insert into the post, or an "ADD TO POST" button in the gallery or something. There has to be an easier way to add a gallery image to a post then we have now. Something that non technical folks can understand. More and more non-technical people are using the internet these days, and things need to be easier to understand and use. I really do like IPB overall, and I think that a little more work in the image handling and you could have an untouchable product. You have some great features, and the integration of all of the different modules into a complete system is wonderful. But the image handling needs to be brought up to the level of everything else you offer. Thanks for the opportunity to vent a little. And I very much hope that some of the suggestions in this thread make it into the next update to the software. CountZero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 3. Give us an easy way to allow folks to add gallery images to posts. I want my users to use the gallery, and I don't allow attachments directly in posts. Gallery images aren't affected when posts are pruned which is why I want everything in the gallery. So give me a button or an image browser that will open the users galleries and let them pick an image to insert into the post, or an "ADD TO POST" button in the gallery or something. There has to be an easier way to add a gallery image to a post then we have now. Something that non technical folks can understand. More and more non-technical people are using the internet these days, and things need to be easier to understand and use. It won't be in 3.1, but having a system that allows users to easily insert gallery images into their posts is on our todo list. Generally speaking, we want to make it easier for all applications to share content with each other, not just gallery to forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSlammer Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 It won't be in 3.1, but having a system that allows users to easily insert gallery images into their posts is on our todo list. Generally speaking, we want to make it easier for all applications to share content with each other, not just gallery to forum. I made a gallery posting tool for my forum, but have had issues creating a hook to make it installable for other forum admins to use. I havent been able to make it work with the rich text editor though. problem is it uses the existing editor skin, adds a button there so I have had issues with it overwriting and then makeing the orginal skin template unusable when uninstalled. Other projects and work schedual dont help either. I may just release the code for template editing - do it manually. It would be a pain in the A$$ but it works well! I opens up as a pop up then shows your albums, pick the album you want - then it shows the images in that album as a thumb nail with a button you push to paste the bbcode into your editor. simple little tool and it works well. http://community.invisionpower.com/topic/299291-Galleryposting-tool-for-3-0-0/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfrloos Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 This is not a suggestion that really comes up often to be honest. In fact, I've only seen it suggested within the last couple of weeks, primarily from vb converts. As we generally use suggestions made to gauge features for upcoming versions, we would consider this for 3.1 and beyond. That's really the only reason it hasn't been considered before. I even said I wasn't against it in my reply. :) May I vote for such a feature (the possibility to set max. width and max. height for images) too? It would make me so happy and my life 'on board' so much easier..... I'm no vb convert btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin Dumitru Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Most of the pictures that people upload on our board are straight form their digital camera ( very high resolution, jpeg, low compression). At the beggining of each month we run a script on the folder with the previous' month's uploaded content that resizes to a sane resolution (max 2000x2000) and recompresses the images with a quality factor of 85. The trick is that there's a sweet spot where you gain a lot from the compression and lose not so much of the picture quality. The compression value of course of course depends on your needs. This doesn't impact the performance of the board as the script runs at night and it also allows one month of "raw content". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin Dumitru Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Just to write this down: there's a hook that resizes images upon upload: I'm running it now on my board and works great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genestoy Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Just to write this down: there's a hook that resizes images upon upload: [url=" [/url] I'm running it now on my board and works great. Thanks for mentioning that hook! it works perfect :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjell Iver Johansen Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thanks for mentioning that hook! it works perfect This hook does'nt work anymore - and the problem with the image sizes need a new fix. Is there a fix around this again now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjell Iver Johansen Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 This hook does'nt work anymore - and the problem with the image sizes need a new fix. Is there a fix around this again now? This i wrong - the hook is working - at least now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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