alj Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 hi i don't know way ips not support non English user specially Those who use right to left language in writing by producing right to left skin it's really difficult for me to tweak all ips product skins When I used vb there was an official right to left skin so i hope ips developer start to make it easy on us non left to right language user also in Attachment when you upload an Attachment with non English characters for example Arabic it will convert to ________ i want to see my file name in my language it was there in vb without any problem Finally, I can not wait to see the new version of all ip product specially ip.b 3.0 but with more Multilingual support options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G. Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I sure hope that plan on writing language files for the ACP side so the translation will be more easy for none English users. There was once some kind of plan of making a project where IPS will put up some official language translations, For some reason it was left out cold not updates and nothing. I for example would love to translate the language files into Hebrew and Convert the IPB skins for Right To Left Usage (Since Hebrew writes from Right to Left). Bringing this back is something IPS will sure benefit from, Official IPS translations project. You would be able to download any translation from the Resources section. Which i think is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alj Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I sure hope that plan on writing language files for the ACP side so the translation will be more easy for none English users. There was once some kind of plan of making a project where IPS will put up some official language translations, For some reason it was left out cold not updates and nothing. I for example would love to translate the language files into Hebrew and Convert the IPB skins for Right To Left Usage (Since Hebrew writes from Right to Left). Bringing this back is something IPS will sure benefit from, Official IPS translations project. You would be able to download any translation from the Resources section. Which i think is a good idea. good idea for the ACP it's difficult to translate even if they add it to file they need need to support multilanguage option in the ACP like the board also translations project will be cool to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alj Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 this some of language that use right to left in writing Arabic, Hebrew, Farsi, and Urdu. and I'm not sure about Chinese but i think they writ form right to left http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php...aded&start= and if any one know any language that use right to left writing can post it her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magna Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Foreign language support is also needed for functions like "Stop shouting in Topic Titles". It only converts standard english characters to lowercase and non-english characters stay in upper case. This makes the topic title uglier than all uppercase. Foreign language support should be built into the core of the new version. I am fed up with editing and re-applying edits after every update. Supporting foreign languages properly will also help you sell more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEV Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I found that in last tree 2.3.x ipb versions ipb have strange problem with some non-english characters in topic titles. Can't solve this problem. A few definite non-english characters just deleted from title by core ipb when topic posted or edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G. Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I still can't understand why they dropped the Languages Project. They never even announced about dropping the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Foreign language support is also needed for functions like "Stop shouting in Topic Titles". It only converts standard english characters to lowercase and non-english characters stay in upper case. This makes the topic title uglier than all uppercase. Foreign language support should be built into the core of the new version. I am fed up with editing and re-applying edits after every update. Supporting foreign languages properly will also help you sell more. The problem with this is that we use a relatively standard php function to perform this functionality, and it's the php function itself that doesn't know upper/lower case. Once locale support is built in, this shouldn't be an issue any more.I found that in last tree 2.3.x ipb versions ipb have strange problem with some non-english characters in topic titles. Can't solve this problem. A few definite non-english characters just deleted from title by core ipb when topic posted or edited. I haven't heard of any reports of this. I'd recommend submitting a ticket so we can see what is going on, as we are not stripping non-english characters explicitely.I still can't understand why they dropped the Languages Project. They never even announced about dropping the idea. I think it was lack of interest to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G. Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I think it was lack of interest to be honest. Lack of interest?! What more would a company want then having there software available in as many different languages as possible. I can assure you that more then 10 members would chip in for this project, IF it will be available again *Hint Hint*. Think of it, More languages, More members, More sells. Every software has it's translations. I can't see a reason why IPB shouldn't. If 3.0 will support full language files including the ACP then i think this project should have a green light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 No, no, not lack of interest on OUR part lol. I mean we didn't get enough people willing to participate and maintain the language files. I'm not positive, but I thought that was why it didn't really take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alj Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 No, no, not lack of interest on OUR part lol. I mean we didn't get enough people willing to participate and maintain the language files. I'm not positive, but I thought that was why it didn't really take off. you can just ask and make it easy for us to maintain the language files and you will found allot of people willing to participate and start translation and updating all the files because it really hard to translate ips products to Foreign language ips need to add more and more support to Foreign language as vadim88 say Think of it, More languages, More members, More sells. Every software has it's translations. I can't see a reason why IPB shouldn't. now ips products used globally not only in English also you know way many people not using ips products in first place even it's great and go for another board because they need to wait until they get the translated files after that the skin if they use right to left writing then they will start thinking what if ips release another update or major one like v.3 dose i'll get the chance to update my board or i'll wait as usual? because it rally annoyed me to start editing in every update just to get my board upgrade because ips not interest to support us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G. Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 No, no, not lack of interest on OUR part lol. I mean we didn't get enough people willing to participate and maintain the language files. I'm not positive, but I thought that was why it didn't really take off. Yea i understood, Lack of interest from the members. But the reason for that was that they ACP were hard coded into the files. So translating all the ACP files is really a hassle considering the fact that every upgrade they will need to view the differences between the files and translate the missing bits. That's why i hope in version 3 the ACP will be at least 90% used with language files so the translation will be easier and quicker. Now i know that once this project takes of there WILL be more then a dozen different kind of translators willing to participate and help. Another suggestion for multilingual support is having the CSS coded to use RTL too. Just like PhpBB does it. If you set in the settings that your board is directed from RTL then the body tag is set to RTL class and then it applies to the same CSS but with elements that have the RTL inside. In other words just take alook at phpbb CSS and you will understand. I sure hope those will take into consideration not just for the board but to all IPS products. Multi Languages support is the one of the Highest priorities since more Forigen members will be able to use the software. Again not just the board but all products. vadim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Editorn Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 No, no, not lack of interest on OUR part lol. I mean we didn't get enough people willing to participate and maintain the language files. I'm not positive, but I thought that was why it didn't really take off. Not to complain on anyone, but I think it was difficult to get people involved in the language translations due to the fact that they are quite difficult to maintain. Please see my previous suggestion regarding making this simplier :)http://forums.invisionpower.com/index.php?showtopic=273689 Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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