Embedded Videos

[Nightstick]

Isn't it about time to consider moving embedded videos (i.e. Youtube, Google Videos, LiveLeak, etc.) into the base product?

I can embed videos on a MySpace page without a degree in php, so I should be able to do it in IPB forums too.

The mod is nice, but it gets trashed with every update.

Videos are all the rage on the Internet, so it's time for forum software to reflect this reality.

I hope Invision considers adding this feature to the base product in a future release.

[Wondering Soul]

Problem is, not everyone will find a use for this.

Its so simple to achieve without a modification too. All you need to do is create a custom BB Code for each video type (YouTube and so on).

I have one for YouTube, MySpace, GoogleVideo and Break.com that I made myself, it takes two minutes. If you want the code for them then just ask :) Its easily achievable without the need to upgrade Mods everytime there is a new IP.Board version.

[China J]

Problem is, not everyone will find a use for this.

Its so simple to achieve without a modification too. All you need to do is create a custom BB Code for each video type (YouTube and so on).

I have one for YouTube, MySpace, GoogleVideo and Break.com that I made myself, it takes two minutes. If you want the code for them then just ask :) Its easily achievable without the need to upgrade Mods everytime there is a new IP.Board version.

You are right, not everyone will use this. However, I have to say that many will find a use for it which I think will out weight the few who won't find a use. In order for us to have this ability in the blogs for example then it would have to be added to the IP.Board.

Besides, Bfarber is already working on a method to handle this if I recall correctly.

[Nightstick]

Problem is, not everyone will find a use for this.

Its so simple to achieve without a modification too. All you need to do is create a custom BB Code for each video type (YouTube and so on).

I have one for YouTube, MySpace, GoogleVideo and Break.com that I made myself, it takes two minutes. If you want the code for them then just ask :) Its easily achievable without the need to upgrade Mods everytime there is a new IP.Board version.

Not everyone can find a use for embedded images, smilies, or a half-dozen of the BASE BB codes.

But these features are all part of the base product because MOST customers want them.

What the MARKET wants should DRIVE what goes into base. That's how a product stays competitive.

And with the growth of broadband, VIDEO is KING in the marketplace.

Mods are nice, but since they aren't supported by Invision, using them represents a significant risk for most users.

With the last upgrade, I've lost videos in my boards and blogs, and several members on Invisionize claim that the video mod doesn't even work with 2.3.4.

So I now I sit and wait for a fix that might only work until the NEXT upgrade.

Meanwhile members on my site now link back to videos they embedded in two seconds on their MySpace pages.

It's not a good day when I'm jealous of the core functionality on a MySpace page. :(

[Wondering Soul]

You say that you use a mod for embedding videos...you really don't have to. There is BB Code that takes all of two minutes to come up with that can let you embed MySpace, YouTube, GoogleVideo, Break.com video and many more. This can easily be added.

I do agree with you that it should now be included in the base library, but IPS don't have to support any third party code...

[China J]

You say that you use a mod for embedding videos...you really don't have to. There is BB Code that takes all of two minutes to come up with that can let you embed MySpace, YouTube, GoogleVideo, Break.com video and many more. This can easily be added.

I do agree with you that it should now be included in the base library, but IPS don't have to support any third party code...

You're missing the point. You have to remember that a large percentage of members will not even know what a bbcode is less alone how to use it. If there is a small UI integrated into the posting area for the not so savy users who are used to all the other alternatives that do offer a "Lead you by the hand" solution then we should get on the ball and have one too.

You keep going on about bbcode and how quick & easy it is to use IMO from a webmasters point of view instead of considering the everyday user. My members come first then admin second... Not the other way around. ;)

[Wondering Soul]

You're missing the point. You have to remember that a large percentage of members will not even know what a bbcode is less alone how to use it. If there is a small UI integrated into the posting area for the not so savy users who are used to all the other alternatives that do offer a "Lead you by the hand" solution then we should get on the ball and have one too.

You keep going on about bbcode and how quick & easy it is to use IMO from a webmasters point of view instead of considering the everyday user. My members come first then admin second... Not the other way around. ;)

Ok fair enough, and that's why I said that I think it should be included in the base library with IP.Board, so people don't have to know how to add it, just that its there to use. Although I then think that the problem would be with whether or not IPS feel the need to do such a thing. Mainly because embedding video could be considered supporting 3rd party software/applications which they are not obliged to do.

[(e) Eric]

Where's the mod? :)

[China J]

Ok fair enough, and that's why I said that I think it should be included in the base library with IP.Board, so people don't have to know how to add it, just that its there to use. Although I then think that the problem would be with whether or not IPS feel the need to do such a thing. Mainly because embedding video could be considered supporting 3rd party software/applications which they are not obliged to do.

Check out the blog rte... It's there already for video. However I think it should be global for those who don't use a blog at their forum but utilize their forums for such activity. I own a blog so it makes me no difference, but on occasion I have made a post or two with a video in it but had to figure out how to do it which ended up being more time that what it worth. :P

[SecondSight]

Hello ! :)

My board's members publish links of videos very often, so it seems useful to me.

Can you give us the BBCode for displaying videos on one's board ?

Thank you ! :)

[WebbyB]

Here's my code to create custom Youtube BBCode tags, so you your members can easily embed Youtube into their posts/topics.

Open up Custom BBCode within your Admin panel (Under Management Tab)

Set the Title & Description as Youtube (You can add more into description)

then next to Custom BBCode Replacement add the following:

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/{content}"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/{content}" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Then under Custom BBCode Tag add the following:

youtube

Then your done and ready to embed youtube videos with the code, video id here



:)

[SecondSight]

Thank you very much. :) I will try it today.

[BryanH]

They've already solved this for the next IP.Blog release. tag will embed video.

Really though they should've just called the tag so it can be the same across both IPB and IP.Blog.

[twasntme]

Thank you very much for the code. I've added it to our board. THe members will have fun with it for better or worse.

[ikillbill]

Here's my code to create custom Youtube BBCode tags, so you your members can easily embed Youtube into their posts/topics.

Open up Custom BBCode within your Admin panel (Under Management Tab)

then next to [b]Custom BBCode Replacement[/b] add the following:

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/{content}"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/{content}" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Then under Custom BBCode Tag add the following:

youtube

Then your done and ready to embed youtube videos with the code, video id here



:)

Hi

is there any way to let members enter like

http://www.youtube.com/v/video ? instead of video id

our members found it is more "straightforward" and convenient

[bfarber]

Hi

is there any way to let members enter like

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/video[/youtube] ? instead of [youtube]video id[/youtube]

our members found it is more "straightforward" and convenient

This functionality will be built in for the next release. :)

[Lewis P]

Hi

is there any way to let members enter like

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/video[/youtube] ? instead of [youtube]video id[/youtube]

our members found it is more "straightforward" and convenient

Change the "Custom BBCode Replacement" code to this;

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="{content}"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="{content}" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Just temporary fix until IPB 3. As Brandon stated, this will be built in as a tag in the next release :)

[Zzzzzzzzzz]

That fix will not work, as the URI for the page is different than the actual video. You would likely need to do some type of modrewrite in your htaccess file as the easiset temp fix, or a str_replace coded into the board.

[Lewis P]

You sure about that? This is what I have on my board as valid xHTML...

<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" style="width:425px; height:344px;" data="http://www.youtube.com/v/{content}">

<param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/{content}" />

</object>

and it works fine...

[krocheck]

My ideal would be for members to upload a video file and then my server take over, convert it to an FLV, and make it embedable in the post like any other flash movie.

Of course, having been in the video world these past few years, I understand many of the problems surrounding such an idea ... including software that would need to be installed and configured and server performance to take into account (transcoding video is labor intensive).

So is it feasible? No, not really ... but that is my ideal capabilities for video.

Keith

[Zzzzzzzzzz]

That does work just fine, in fact I posted the compliant code in the other thread about youtube embedding...

But the URL for a YouTube page is: http://youtube.com/watch?v=dMH0bHeiRNg

Whereas the URI to embed the video itself is the: http://www.youtube.com/v/

Just deleting the http://www.youtube.com/v/ part and allowing members to paste the URI will not work, as it is the wrong URI

[Lewis P]

Yes, I understand that. I just replied to what the poster asked;

is there any way to let members enter like

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/video[/youtube] ? instead of [youtube]video id[/youtube]

I most definitely knew what would happen should he have used the v= url instead.

Hope that clears things up ;)

[Zzzzzzzzzz]

I think the only difference to keep in mind is that users know they need to enter a URL that will not be displayed in there browser anywhere. I would think most people are just going to try and copy and paste the URL as they see it in thier browser.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dMH0bHeiRNg

On that note, is the poster that asked, aware of the difference, or was he copying the http://www.youtube.com/v/video URL from the BBCode snippet?

I can't picture it being anymore user friendly to ask people to edit a URL to http://www.youtube.com/v/video instead of copying just the video ID

I am toying with it now to see what I can come up with

[Zzzzzzzzzz]

This is something I came up with that may work as a little better prompt of what to enter

<object

type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="{option}{content}" 

width="425" height="344">

<param name="movie" value="{option}{content}" />

</object>






[youtube="http://www.youtube.com/v/"]dMH0bHeiRNg[/youtube]

And under the option dialog simply put the http://www.youtube.com/v/

[bfarber]

My ideal would be for members to upload a video file and then my server take over, convert it to an FLV, and make it embedable in the post like any other flash movie.

Of course, having been in the video world these past few years, I understand many of the problems surrounding such an idea ... including software that would need to be installed and configured and server performance to take into account (transcoding video is labor intensive).

So is it feasible? No, not really ... but that is my ideal capabilities for video.

Keith

As you said, entirely not feasible. ;) For a site that was dedicated to doing such a thing, realistically you would be able to purchase a custom modification to do this from a reliable coder to boot, so there's not much involvement we'd have with such a feature.

On a related note though, I know a site that has integrated a flash loader for gallery media which works nicely without transcoding. All of the custom media code calls a flash loader, which then loads the actual movie, and seems to be able to handle any formats he allows. No transcoding and you still have flash on the front-end.