New Payment Method

[cody kline]

Dear Ips Staff,

I think it would be better for me if i moved my forum to a new host. But as i do not have 149.99$ at the moment to buy the ipb standard license, i was hoping i could pay monthly fees, as i do for hosting. So basically

every month i could pay a fee for the ipb board standard license until i pay it off, like i do with hosting.

I hope you consider this, And i wanted to thank you for your great work and the effort you put into Ipb to make it the best forum out there.

Happy Holidays,
Sincerely
Cody Kline

[Digi]

If you want that why not just use IPS's hosting services to get a free license to use the software?

You don't have to pay continually for support or upgrades, and you get to use the software until you leave IPS's hosting. Only downside is that, since the files are encoded, some mods are unable to be installed.

[cody kline]

Im already hosting with them, But i dont have that much freedom, I figure since its a win win situation, They dont have to host me, and they get paid, and i get a ipb license on my owner server.

[stobbo]

People could pay for one month, and then take the license without paying the rest. It was suggested before.

[cody kline]

No, because you figure, You pay for the ipb license, then if you stop paying, Ipb can lock your account so you cant get any upgrades and they can find your board and shut it down, and they can take out the money out of your bank if you dont pay, and if you didnt have that money, they could still take it out and you would get charged plus extra for not having money in the bank, Trust me i know how it works. and i would never rip off ips

Also if they wanted i could provide them with a bank statement, My id or any other identification for security reasons.

[stobbo]

People won't care if there account is locked, they still have a working IP.Board. They could take the money out of your bank account, but then IPS still has to be spend time doing this and time is money. The money has to come from somewhere, ultimately the license fee which I and others pay. I personally would rather my money is spent on development of the products and similar things. You might not rip off IPS, but others would.

[cody kline]

People can easily get free Ipb downloads off the internet, I dont think they would take the time to give ips their credit card details etc... and then rip them off. And ips gets people who steal ipb boards all the time and they dont even pay, I think they would take the people who paid and stole the ipb first into their thoughts.

Edit: and if you dont pay, Well the bad credit will follow you forever and mess up your getting an apt or house - can even keep you from getting some jobs.
you could also get sued.

[stobbo]

IPS could sue them and give them bad credit, but at the end of the day it still means IPS has to spend time sorting out fraud, and taking people to court, when they could be developing software and providing support.

[cody kline]

Like i said before, People get ipb for free, And dont pay a dime!

Atleast when ipb tracks ipb theft who didnt pay the monthly fees, they still get that money for the first month, and they actually loose money when people dont pay at all and just download it off the internet, And they have no clues to who is stealing. Atleast with paying that have clues to who paid, credit card details where they live etc...

So in simpler format,

If someone does steal the ipb board after paying first months fee, They still get money
But if someone doesnt pay at all and downloads off internet, They dont get paid.

[Digi]

People can easily get free Ipb downloads off the internet, I dont think they would take the time to give ips their credit card details etc... and then rip them off. And ips gets people who steal ipb boards all the time and they dont even pay, I think they would take the people who paid and stole the ipb first into their thoughts.

If that were the case...why would IPS stop allowing license transfers due to the relatively high fraud level associated with it? I can see your "plan" causing the same sort of heartache

Those downloads on the internet come from somewhere you know ;)

[cody kline]

That made no sense what so ever.

[Κeith]

Like i said before, People get ipb for free, And dont pay a dime!

:unsure: Usually free means you don't pay anything. :P

Like mentioned, the initial copies that are released on pirated software sites comes from somewhere. Besides, I'm not getting your point because you purcahse a license and you're allowed to use it on your site even if you don't pay the renewal fees. What exactly is being stolen?

[cody kline]

Keith, were not talking about purchasing a license, Were talking about paying it off in time, Like 20$ a month, instead of 150 upfront. Some people like me cant afford to pay for it all at once when i have school and colledge funds to worry about. By paying monthly fees helps me better.

[PKIDelirium]

Instead of "Monthly fee" maybe some kind of financing?

[cody kline]

Explain please.

[Digi]

Server-locked encoded version until payment is completed is a good idea too, but I think all of this is likely too much of a hassle.

[cody kline]

What do you mean?

[Guest]

I don't think ips will consider your option, but you could just open a bank account and save until you have enough to buy the license at once...

you might also want to check on invisionize, they have a section there with 2nd handed licenses, sometimes they really go cheap there, I've seen perpetuals pass for as low as 60$

[stobbo]

I don't have a credit card as I am 14, but couldn't you just pay for it on a credit card, and pay it back to the credit card company over time rather than IPS? Might cost more than $149.99, but paying $20 upfront like you said would be more than $149.99.

[Vince G.]

If you dont have a credit card, use your parents card, or save some money then just transfer it into IPS's bank account.

[stobbo]

'If you dont have a credit card, use your parents card'

But ask them first :thumbsup: I don't think IPS would appreciate parents phoning up about money being taken from there account without there knowledge.

[Vince G.]

Well yeah ofcourse you MUST ask them first or at least notify them about it.

[Jaggi]

yes ask them... :P

can imagine the conversation tho...

You: "mom can i borrow your credit card"
Mom: "oh you wanna buy another toy car"
You: "no i wanna buy a IPS forum board license"
Mom: "erm..."

i do think the only way this can work is with a encoded version till you've fully paid off your license but then it depends on how far ips is willing to go on this matter as it is extra work. Also its a very niche idea and i don't think tons of people are going to be rushing to use it. Also what stops you for using it for a month or two even encoded and then deciding its not for you? even if ips put a timeout on the encoded file that still months your getting for free.

[Guest]

it's an interesting concept though which they could offer as an alternative hosting scheme, eg charge 25$ per month instead of 10$ per month and if you stay at least 1 year then you own the standard license and the board code is offered after the 1 year of hosting.

I'm not sure either if this would amount a lot of interest as you can't predict people.

[bfarber]

I don't really see the benefit in this for IPS - there's too many things that can go wrong.

And what makes you think we could just take the money out of your bank account if you don't pay. :blink: That's illegal, and not possible - especially if you don't have the money in your account to begin with. It's no different from going to a store with no money in your account and trying to swipe your card. It doesn't overdraft - it gets declined.

Anyways, I'm moving this to the parent feedback forum, as this isn't a feature suggestion for IPB itself.