Aragon202 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 iv got a suggestion, reduce the price of this for non profit orgs/for general use... as
`Scotty` Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 If they did this they would have to deal with a lot of fraud.Like Stobbo said it just isn't worth it the software is worth the price, you could have a fundraser to buy the software.
Strange_Will Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 I'm confused:When someone puts in a request, can't you just look up to see if they're an NPO? It should be on their business records no?
stobbo Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 I'm confused:When someone puts in a request, can't you just look up to see if they're an NPO? It should be on their business records no?If they did do that, then it'd be more work for IPS. And I wouldn't want my license fee spent on subsiding others personally.
Stuart Elliott Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 All NPOs get their funding from somewhere, be it donations, fund raising drives, etc, you just need to organise one of those to purchase IPB.To paraphrase a seaside postcard.. "This company is a non profit organisation, it's not designed that way, it's just how it works out.
.Ryan Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 You should have to prove VIA the IRS that you are a non-profit organization, Forumize originally started out as one and then we went to commercial since its not worth it.
Mat Barrie Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 You should have to prove VIA the IRS that you are a non-profit organization, Forumize originally started out as one and then we went to commercial since its not worth it.See, that there isn't possible for overseas companies. Here in NZ for example, our companies office does not distinguish between Non-Profit and For-Profit enterprises, and our taxation department will (for privacy reasons) not disclose the for-profit status of a company to outside entities.It's just not viable to offer NPO discounts.
skysober Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 Ironically you are wanting IPB for one of the mods to go along with it. I'm curious which mod? I agree with you though, most software companies do offer a reduced price for NPO NFP companies, as they realize that many people will visit it and it will offer more publicity and your members would notice this. They could even require a small clickable banner at the bottom...
cojo Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 See, that there isn't possible for overseas companies. Here in NZ for example, our companies office does not distinguish between Non-Profit and For-Profit enterprises, and our taxation department will (for privacy reasons) not disclose the for-profit status of a company to outside entities.It's just not viable to offer NPO discounts.Looks like New Zealand passed a law requiring all organizations to register with the Charities Commission by 1 July 2008 to retain their tax exempt status. The public can search the registration database online. http://www.charities.govt.nz/index.html Countries, which don't offer ready access to this type of info, probably issue some sort of authorization/designation letter to non-profits. A copy could be given to the vendor. If the letter looks forged and can't be verified, simply don't accept it.iv got a suggestion, reduce the price of this for non profit orgs/for general use... as
W13 Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 Lots of website owners can say they are "non profit" by saying they don't have adverts or products/services being sold on their website. Even my website is mostly non-profit and more of a hobby really. Since I've actually paid the full price (perpetual license), I wouldn't want the price dropping, to be honest. So, ++ to stobbo's comment.
Strange_Will Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Lots of website owners can say they are "non profit" by saying they don't have adverts or products/services being sold on their website. Even my website is mostly non-profit and more of a hobby really. Since I've actually paid the full price (perpetual license), I wouldn't want the price dropping, to be honest. So, ++ to stobbo's comment.Still not an NPO though.
Digi Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 I don't think IPB's price is a huge burden for a non-profit (except in countries where the standard of living is much lower). If an organization can find the money for computers, computer software, internet connection, web hosting, etc, it's not unreasonable to find a little more for forum software. One benefit of offering lower prices to non-profits though is IPS could probably write this off on their taxes. A regular contributor could easily buy the software too and take a tax deduction.Donations and discounts are given out of a sense of generosity. When putting a company on the spot publicly like this way, you evoke a much different emotion.Amen! ;)
Mark Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Of course you could always get hosting with IPS and get a free IP Board license :)
.Sephiroth. Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Of course you could always get hosting with IPS and get a free IP Board license :)Which, would expire if you found a better deal with hosting elsewhere..May be a bad idea, considering I can find a better deal elsewhere for only $3.99 a month.
stobbo Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Which, would expire if you found a better deal with hosting elsewhere..May be a bad idea, considering I can find a better deal elsewhere for only $3.99 a month.The price, bandwidth and disk space isn't what makes hosting good, you have to consider server speed, reliability and customer support too.
PolakTom101 Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 The price, bandwidth and disk space isn't what makes hosting good, you have to consider server speed, reliability and customer support too.Very True!I had a host like this and when I bought I only considered space, and bandwidth. My hosts support team disappared and would reapper every 3 to 5 days. :( I recommend you go with removed :)removedYou may think that is not enough space and everything else but think about how much space and bandwidth you will really use. The Whole Installation of IPB is about 6 MB.If you are really considered order a IPS Hosting account. Free IPB Lisence included with every account.http://hosting.ipslink.com/
Mat Barrie Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Very True!I had a host like this and when I bought I only considered space, and bandwidth. My hosts support team disappared and would reapper every 3 to 5 days. :( I recommend you go with XXXXXXXXX.You may think that is not enough space and everything else but think about how much space and bandwidth you will really use. The Whole Installation of IPB is about 6 MB.If you are really considered order a IPS Hosting account. Free IPB Lisence included with every account.http://hosting.ipslink.com/That's going to get edited. Linking to competitors is outright forbidden.
Dark Phantom Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 If a NPO is big enough to raise funds for professional hosting and have the needs for quality software like Invision Power Board, then they can pay full price like everyone else, because it really is only a one time fee.Of course they would continue to pay to get upgrades and support, but thats cheap enough for one person to afford.
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