Robi Gorgin Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I have an offer for youFast reply is made for send fast replies in topics..In order to make it faster..Use AJAX to send reply very fast - With Ajax the reply will add without refreshing the page..Dont Good? :)Regards, Eylon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 It wouldn't work.What if a new post was made while you were posting your reply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robi Gorgin Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I mean to send a fast reply with Ajax (without refreshing the page)As vBULLETIN :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skysober Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Please - no more ajax! It is difficult enough to add mods and correct the software to what members want. Our Fast reply actually uses more options than the standard fast reply, and it is still faster than the full reply mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggi Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 this feature has already been suggested and ruled out for various reasons, there is a mod to do this however. Reasons it was dumped were as said before what if there was a post made while an ajax request was being made or what if the post was in a new page?My personal solution was to maybe ignore all these factors and just add it default to the page your viewing when posted in fast reply therefore technically allowing there to be more than the allowed amount of posts in a page. Obviously still code it the same way as any post so if you were to refresh a page it'd figure all that other stuff out at that point (e.g. run the pagination query to add it to the next page). Secondly if someone else makes a post then a way round that could be to ignore it again (because it'd be coded correctly in the db on page refresh its possible your post would be moved down if another post was made before it). To stop this happening repeatedly maybe lock the reply box after ONE reply has been made requiring a hard refresh of the page to continue to post more. Although technically these are possible solutions they are kinda messy and is it really worth all that bother? i'm happy with how it is atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mert Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Please, no more AJAX, and no more character problem :PI can't imagine that all my posts with fast reply appears with lots of question marks :lol:Also, if there won't be any character problem, it would be excellent to have this :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Darren Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 IP.Board already has AJAX around the board. Adding it to more places may disrupt modifications.The submission time for a Fast Reply -> Post isn't that long. The difference between refreshing the page and using AJAX is normally 0.? seconds to 3 seconds depending on your internet connection speed and the text/images in the topic.It's most likely that IPS will not spend a long time coding IP.Board to have AJAX in the Fast Reply Box to save users a couple of seconds.-User Darren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_ind Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Replace IPB with a java Chat. Open a new channel for each new topic. However, leave the channels open for all time and keep a list of what these channels are and what should be discussed in them. All happy? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robi Gorgin Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 this feature has already been suggested and ruled out for various reasons, there is a mod to do this however. Reasons it was dumped were as said before what if there was a post made while an ajax request was being made or what if the post was in a new page?Where i can download this mod?Plz give a link.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetigergrowl Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Personally, it creates more problems than its worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digi Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I'd like to see a list of problems this creates. Of the things mentioned here, I don't see any issue really.What if a new post was made while you were posting your reply?Does it really matter? You don't see new posts when you use the full editor either until you've completed the post. Posting with an AJAXian fast reply should simply be sure to NOT reset the "viewed all posts in a topic" flag. That way, if you go to the topic list again, you'll see that a new reply was made. Though I agree that personally I'd rather the page be refreshed so that I wouldn't have to revisit.Please, no more AJAX, and no more character problemI had a long talk with bfarber about character sets the other day. Not really knowing all the details regarding these things. While I'm no expert here, it sounds like a lot of the character set issues are database related. Doesn't meant that there isn't room for improvement.My personal solution was to maybe ignore all these factors and just add it default to the page your viewing when posted in fast replyIf this were to happen, that would be exactly the case. Trying to figure out pagination via javascript would be a worthless endeavor. >_<While I'm not one to advocate AJAX everywhere and not really for this, I don't really see a reason why not. And since AJAX is client side, I think an on/off switch would be applicable and ok here (as it wouldn't affect server load times) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetigergrowl Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Well for one...I can't count the number of times it just hangs....and hangs...and hangs. Especially if the server is busy with people posting. Or posting alot in a specific thread. A forum isn't exactly supposed to be a chat room nor is it made as such. The only real advantage to ajax is its 'immediate' reaction time to things. However, that does have its downsides. My site has over 10,200 members. And when it was using Vbulletin, the ajax just killed my site. Many sites just turn off ajax fast responses because of that. It slowed it down and like I said, caused many a hang times. Kind of defeats the purpose of it being immediate then doesn't it? Ajax is good in moderation. But theres a reason many large sites turn off more popular ajax features or cripple them. Especially if browsers don't want to cooperate. If the forum isn't that busy, like IPSBeyond, it usually isn't that big of a deal. But the more active a site is, the more problems it seems to cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digi Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I agree :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixOughT Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mert Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I had a long talk with bfarber about character sets the other day. Not really knowing all the details regarding these things. While I'm no expert here, it sounds like a lot of the character set issues are database related. Doesn't meant that there isn't room for improvement.I think there is nothing to do with database for character problems. If you look at the bfarber's fix here, you can see that's all with ajax :) Of course, this can be because of Database Character Set but if you can fix this by editing codes, It is easier than changing the character set of the database (this would need more work because of character problems again) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digi Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Actually, it has everything to do with database (and default forum) vs javascript character sets. Why might you ask? Try running conversions from one character set to another and see where things collide ;) If, however, both JS (which is already is) and the forums (and database) are set to use UTF-8, you will not have the errors listed in that issue as no conversion will need to take place :)Like I said, I'm no expert on this, but what I posted is pretty much right out of the horse's (brandon's) mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mert Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Of course it will work if you use UTF-8 both for the forum and database but there are lots of people like me using a different character sets. Also, I won't change my database's character set because it cause more problems in the future or just after you change. (I did this before)Well, tell me then. Which one is easier? Editing 5 lines of code for future releases or telling people to convert their language sets to UTF-8 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digi Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Right, I never said the fix wasn't viable. You stated that the issues related to ajax features were ajax's fault, which is not the case. If you try to convert from one character set to another that doesn't support the supplied character, then the issue is with the character set, not ajax. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mert Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Yes, you are right :) What I meant was, IPS has a wide range of usage so it has to support all the character sets in forum side usage and to do this, thinking a bit "international" while coding is enough. Otherwise you are right :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digi Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I'm still not sure where you are saying that I am wrong or that I didn't agree with you in this. I've agreed already that there is room for improvement, where have I ever said that IPS should not support other character sets? All I've said is that the issue with character sets isn't "fixable". You can work around it, but it isn't "fixable". If you want to go and complain to the javascript (or UTF-8) developers, that is one thing, but if you use AJAX or transport any data via javascript, it uses UTF-8. There is nothing that IPS can do about it, except work around it where possible. So, if you use AJAX and the one out of few characters that UTF-8 doesn't support is used, then try to translate that character into a different encoding, it is still going to be broken. Even then, it isn't javascript's fault, it is a limitation of the character set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mert Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I didn't say that IPS should not support other character sets. This issue is fixable, just look the post of bfarber here: http://forums.invisionpower.com/index.php?...g_title_id=4833All I want to say is these errors have been occuring in all releases so far, and IPS should just do the fix above for future releases.I also don't say it's Ajax's problem. It is a problem with the usage of Ajax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digi Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I didn't say that IPS should not support other character sets.I think you are confusing yourself here. I said "I never said that" because, from your last message, you made it seem that I did with the "Other than that you are right" comment. If there is a language barrier here then I'm sorry, but your replies have all been "arguing" things I have, or have otherwise been, agreed to. So, I really think we are on the same page here.Your issues with ajax have been "fixed". However, there are still more of them out there, including the bug report split from the one you linked. These aren't all related to the usage of ajax other than the fact that ajax was used in the first place. They all come down to character sets and usage of them. If your site uses a lot of characters that are not available in UTF-8 (which is pretty slim), then of course you will see issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeWill Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I mean to send a fast reply with Ajax (without refreshing the page)As vBULLETIN :)Haha, this ajax reply with vBulletin causes a LOT of bugs, no thanks.I use vBulletin boards day in and out, I these problems are a pain, I'd rather it just refresh instead of making me think I killed a post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InSaNeX Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 [PZ23] Ajax Quickreply v1.0 free to Premium Members ( $5 donation for access to all premium mods ) and integrates Scriptaculous effects into the Ajax, test it here. No bugs, StrangeWill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixieTang Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Spammer, reviving not 1, but 2 DEAD THREADS just to post a mod you have to pay for, nice. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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