I am wondering if IPS anticipates 2.2.1 being soon after 2.2.0. Because last year 2.1.1 came out very soon after 2.1.0. Only reason I care is because I would hate to put in many modifications if 2.2.0 is just going to be put out just for the fact of having it be a FINAL version, but knowing 2.2.1 would be a very quick maintenance release.

cant tell ya, my crystal ball is broken.

cant tell ya, my crystal ball is broken.

Yours too? Must be that time of year :(

Unless 2.2.0 has a security vunerablility in it that needs immediate fixing, I would assume 2.2.1 will follow a while after 2.2.0

I am wondering if IPS anticipates 2.2.1 being soon after 2.2.0. Because last year 2.1.1 came out very soon after 2.1.0. Only reason I care is because I would hate to put in many modifications if 2.2.0 is just going to be put out just for the fact of having it be a FINAL version, but knowing 2.2.1 would be a very quick maintenance release.

That's always possible, but keep in mind that the jump from 2.0 -> 2.1 was a much bigger leap than 2.1 -> 2.2. This may mean that changes made after final release could be (warning: speculation here) patches instead of full-boat point releases. But of course we'll have to wait and see.

You can always choose to sit out the upgrade for a couple month's time before putting all the time into adding your 100 mods. ;)

Of course, a better alternative would be to avoid bloating your board with a zillion mods, which very often causes problems.

Of course, a better alternative would be to avoid bloating your board with a zillion mods, which very often causes problems.

Couldn't say it better myself. Infact I would go as far to say, and I am no security expert, but most of the time when a board gets hacked its the modification's fault.

My forum has not been hacked, I don't use modifications unless it requires no code changes, I do NOT trust code modifications by people I don't know.

The only modification I would use is the one I bought from IPS, only because they would have to stand by it to a point.

Code modifications don't always mean you're exposing yourself to a potential security risk. A lot of mods don't have any inputs, thus there's no real way for them to be a problem. If someone ever tells me they were able to hack a board because it had Group Name Indicator or Members Online Today on it, I'll eat my hat. I've written dozens of IPB modifications and I've never had a security risk in one of them (at least not one that's ever been reported to me).

Of course, a better alternative would be to avoid bloating your board with a zillion mods, which very often causes problems.

Except every time we ask for a useful feature Invision tells us to just use a mod ;)

Truthfully, after any major update, the best bet is to let things sit for a while before upgrading. Allow all the "I can't wait" folks upgrade and have problems. Allow time for the serious issues to be fixed and any mods you simply must have get updated then upgrade.

You'll thank yourself for doing that, even though its hard to resist the lure of new features.

Except every time we ask for a useful feature Invision tells us to just use a mod ;)

Yeah but doesn't mean you need to install alot of mods. I only have 3 mods installed and i don't see myself adding anymore.

Code modifications don't always mean you're exposing yourself to a potential security risk. A lot of mods don't have any inputs, thus there's no real way for them to be a problem. If someone ever tells me they were able to hack a board because it had Group Name Indicator or Members Online Today on it, I'll eat my hat. I've written dozens of IPB modifications and I've never had a security risk in one of them (at least not one that's ever been reported to me).

I am talking about the major modifications, not minor modifications like "Members Online Today", but I have seen to many people get hacked by some of the "popular" scripts and they refuse to remove them.

When they get hacked again, because the person left a backdoor, they blame IPB which can't be good for sales.

That I agree with, I'm very careful about the major mods I install. I don't install Arcades or Shoutboxes, those are the big ones that get exploited often.

The D21 Shoutbox used to be a minefield. I mean, it's obvious that Dean is very talented, but he took his sweet time updating the download zip to plug those security holes :ermm:

I indeed have 100+ mods, but I dont just throw out a lot of crap just to say I have features. i only add what I personally think is cool. My site is so dead, I use everything myself for entertainment. lmao Also MOST of my features are things to make posting or PMing better, refresh online list (coolest of all mods in my opinion), then some components such as arcade, casino, a points system, guest message, etc....

Just usually things that I think have some use. Although I do think I am going to cut way back on ones not being used.

Some are as simple as previous/next links in the PM area. I mean that isn't a security risk!

I personally think there isn't much of a point to shout boxes and a lot of other things, so I don't add them.

It does take me MANY hours of copying and pasting to put all mods back in, on update though.

It might not matter if you jump to 2.2.0 and 2.2.1 come out within a week.
It depends what mods to need and how quickly the authors update them, which might take one week and 3 days.
Then you're covered.

I pretty much think I can fix most mods myself if I truly need them though.

Oh well, what I will do is just put the important mods in 2.2.0.

I too am only adding the important mods to 2.2.0 as some are just a waste if they dont get used

I would expect some time after 2.2.0 is released, there will inevitably be a 2.2.1. Maybe not within a month, maybe not within 2 months, but eventually I'm sure that those who HAVEN'T beta tested the product will stumble across something and report it, and eventually an update will need to be released.

Microsoft releases updates for Windows for years after it is released - it's the nature of the beast.

WHEN a 2.2.1 would be released is anyone's guess. If all goes well, not for a while.

Why are you so worried about a 2.2.1 release when 2.2.0 isn't even final yet my gosh thats like someone asking how long after 2.2 will 3.0 be released. people don't understand that the script writers don't "plan" the release of a new script unless its needed i.e. point release. a full version release such as 3.0 I would be more worried about seeing as its a inevitable release to expand the potential of the board. People get ahead of themselves alot.

Why are you so worried about a 2.2.1 release when 2.2.0 isn't even final yet my gosh thats like someone asking how long after 2.2 will 3.0 be released. people don't understand that the script writers don't "plan" the release of a new script unless its needed i.e. point release. a full version release such as 3.0 I would be more worried about seeing as its a inevitable release to expand the potential of the board. People get ahead of themselves alot.

I already told why. I don't want to put a lot of mods in, then 2.2.1 come out 2 weeks later.

IPB has done good with releasing quick fixes. jus tht e file effected by the security hole so I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Trus, but early in the 2.1 releases they were complete new releases pretty much, and with new features in them. And Brandon had mentioned before some things that could be "in 2.2.1", if I am not mistaken. But anyway, I will just deal, but I was just asking in case I could get an idea of the timeframe.

Simple answer:

Differences from 2.2.0 and 2.2.1 wont need mod changes.